May 6, 2019
In the first of Cate’s “local”
podcast interviews, she sits down with Dr. Emily Johnston: ER
doctor, international mountain guide, ski patroller, river guide.
Cate and Emily met one week prior to this conversation on an
airplane. They ended up in a conversation about inclusivity their
respective fields and decided to continue the conversation here on
the Yogahealer podcast.
What you’ll get out of tuning in:
inclusivity is so important in building dynamic groups.
role fear plays in the practice of exclusivity.
learning to receive feedback can lead to more
and Emily discuss adaptability, creative problem solving, and
staying in flow.
and Emily discuss the importance of inclusivity in evolving dynamic
groups and how to engage others in the inclusivity conversation and
the roles that stereotypes, culture, and intergenerational
communication play in that.
imparts her tips for how to form a dynamic group from a diverse
group of people. Spoiler alert: laughter is key!
Links Mentioned in Episode:
- 5:18 - Cate and Emily discuss
adaptability, creative problem solving, and staying in
- 12:30 - Cate explains how we
can bend time with breathwork and meditation and asks Emily if
those are tools that guides and doctors are taught.
- 19:36 - Cate and Emily discuss
the importance of inclusivity in evolving dynamic
- 28:28 - Cate and Emily discuss
how to engage others in the inclusivity conversation and the roles
that stereotypes, culture, and intergenerational communication play
- 34:40 - Cate asks Emily for her tips on how to form a cohesive
dynamic group from a diverse group of people.
- 38:18 - Cate and Emily discuss
the role that fear plays in the practice of
- 44:25 - Emily challenges us to
be more consciously inclusive.
- “Laughter breaks down barriers: language
barriers, cultural barriers, and ego barriers.” --- Emily
- “Somehow people feel inadequate, and that’s
where that exclusivity shield comes from.” --- Emily
have concerns that our species is inherently too exclusive and not
inclusive enough. So my challenge is for people to just try to be
more inclusive and see if we can change the status quo.” --- Emily
Dr. Emily Johnston hadn't always planned to be
a doctor. She graduated from Middlebury with a BA in biology, but
was "too busy playing rugby to focus on grades." The year after she
graduated she worked as a river guide on the Snake, then quickly
started working for Outward Bound. In 1987, she started ski
patrolling in Idaho, and by 1989 she was guiding on Mount Rainier.
She guesses that she was the fourth or fifth woman hired on the
mountain, and soon she was guiding big mountains in Mexico and
In 2002, Emily Johnston was a mountain guide, ski patroller, and
39 years old. And she started her first year of medical school.
After she graduated from medical school (at age 44), Johnston
completed her residency at the Oregon Health & Science
University (OHSU) in Portland. During her residency, she did
medical work in Nepal and the Republic of the Congo. She also
designed and conducted a research project on Denali, where she
measured the effects of carbon monoxide in tents where people were
cooking. She finished her residency at age 47. Now in her 50s,
Emily guides and serves as medical director for International
Mountain Guides. She teaches courses on international mountain
medicine and advanced wilderness life support, and she consults
with the Mount Rainier National Park to streamline their rescue
protocol. Within the community, she is affectionately known as the